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Sit, Click, and Deliver Featured on Mar 30, 2009

Challenge

Are you planning to drive to the store? Grab your mouse instead, and make the purchase online.

Individual Result

Shifting one purchase to online and avoiding a car trip to the store will reduce your CO2 emissions by 7.4 lbs.

Rally Impact

3062 people have reduced CO2 emissions by 11.33 tons by completing this challenge so far. That's equal to turning off the electricity of 14 homes for about 1 month!

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Maybe it’s not shopping itself that makes me nervous. Maybe it’s parking lots. I don’t have my wife’s parking karma. She can go to a crowded mall on Black Friday and always find the one available parking space, conveniently located near a door and someone giving out free ice cream samples. I, on the other hand, can circle without success for half an hour on a normal Tuesday afternoon. (It could, of course, be genetic. There was that time my mother completely lost her car when she went outlet shopping and had to spend the afternoon looking through remaindered cookbooks until her car miraculously reappeared.) Give up the circling and make more of my purchases online? It’s an easy decision.

The Carbon Connection
Online shopping as a green practice is not a slam dunk. There is an ongoing debate over the environmental benefits of online shopping. But we’ve looked at the numbers, tried to break down all of the various factors involved, including long distance and local transportation, your car versus a delivery truck, the use of boxes and foam peanuts, the costs of lighting and heating a store versus a warehouse, etc. And, while the math is complicated, we’ve come to the conclusion that online shopping makes sense.

How does ordering something online and having it delivered to your house save energy and carbon? Think of it as carpooling for packages. The item you order isn’t taking its own limo to your door. More often than not, your package is on the same truck with a hundred other packages, all being delivered to people who live near you. The cost of the gasoline burned to drive the delivery truck and the amount of carbon dioxide released is therefore shared by all of those packages. The more packages sharing the delivery route (your normal daily US mail delivery, for example), the greater the savings.

When you don’t drive to the mall, you’re saving time, gasoline, money, and carbon. Close to 30% of the greenhouse gases released in the United States come from transportation. The average car releases 19.4 pounds of CO2 into Earth’s atmosphere for each gallon of gasoline it burns. That means an average shopping trip of 7.5 miles is responsible for releasing over 6 pounds of CO2 into the air. The less gasoline we burn, the better it is for our atmosphere.

And those big delivery trucks aren’t the gas guzzlers they once were. Both UPS and the US Postal Service have been revamping their truck fleets, replacing older trucks that burn diesel with newer hybrid or all-electric vehicles. Delivery services save time and money by planning the most efficient routes and carrying the most packages on the fewest trucks. So, it is in their best interest for your package to travel as efficiently from Point A to your door as possible.

Of course, if you live close enough to stores and can walk, bike or subway there to do your shopping, that’s preferable. But if you don’t, or if the item you want to buy is too big to carry home, consider taking this Challenge.

Getting It Done
Over 30 percent of holiday gift shopping was done online in 2008. And in a survey of some 9,000 holiday shoppers, the online shoppers rated their experience significantly more satisfactory than did the folks who shopped offline in malls and box stores . Online shopping is working for many people. If you haven’t tried it, we’re challenging you to skip a trip to the mall and try buying something online. (And just between us, don’t you get a funny, “It’s my birthday!” rush when the package you’re expecting finally arrives at your door? It feels like you’re getting a present!)

Here are a few simple suggestions to make this Challenge work for you:

  • Online shopping isn’t perfect for every item you purchase. For example, some people can buy shoes and clothes online; others cannot. Books? Yes. Fresh fish? Not so much. If you know from experience that you need to try on clothes or see something before you buy, then ordering online may not be right for you. On the other hand, comparison shopping online is incredibly easy. Sites such as Shopping.com, MySimon, Froogle, and eBay allow you to quickly find the lowest price for an item. Many online retail sites not only give detailed product descriptions with photos, but also include customer ratings of the seller and reviews of the product.
  • Be a smart consumer when it comes to shipping. Don’t be in such a hurry! Ground shipping may take a little longer, but it is cheaper than overnight air and at least five times more energy efficient. Always choose to combine shipments of separate items if possible, even if it means waiting a few extra days. That saves on both the energy that would have been needed to transport separate boxes as well as reduces the need for separate sets of shipping materials.
  • Online shopping also gives you a chance to support smaller, specialty, “mom and pop” retailers that can sometimes provide harder-to-find products, deeper knowledge and more personal service. Even better, if these smaller merchants are located in your region, using them can help bolster the local economy and reduce the energy required for shipping. If prices are close enough, these types of retailers might be attractive to you.
  • You may want to consider buying the item used on a site like eBay or Craigslist. Manufactured items carry with them not only the pounds of carbon associated with the purchase, but also the energy, production costs, and carbon dioxide associated with their entire manufacturing process. Buying used goods decreases the need to manufacture new products and decreases the release of carbon dioxide associated with their manufacture.
  • Are you interested in maximizing your carbon savings? If that’s the case, then ask yourself whether you really need to buy that item at all. Mind you, in this economy, it would be harmful to just stop buying everything. But if you don’t really need the item, don’t buy it.

Have you changed any of your own shopping routines to reduce environmental impact? How do you manage to reduce shipping costs or packaging when dealing with online retailers? How should we balance a desire to use online shopping with a need to support our local, neighborhood stores? Please share your thoughts, stories, and suggestions with fellow Rallyers in the forum section below.

Rules of the Challenge
This Challenge asks you to avoid one shopping trip by car by choosing to make your purchase online instead. Please choose ground shipping for your delivery option. By buying online, you’ll be saving an estimated 7.4 lbs of CO2. This Challenge is repeatable, and can be accepted once every 14 days. Remember, please don’t take the Challenge for items you already purchase online. Carbonrally is all about making little changes to the way we do things. If this Challenge causes you to make a change, then please accept it!

Learn More
Green Living Tips: Online Shopping and the Environment
Oak Ridge National Laboratory: Shopping on-line reduces a midnight clear’s carbon dioxide

See the Math
Let’s start with the known or estimated numbers:

  • We’ve evaluated the CO2 associated with local transportation, buildings, and packaging related to buying an item in a physical store versus online. We have decided to not include the long distance transportation required to get your merchandise to your town or area. We assume that long-distance ground shipping of merchandise to a store or parcel distribution facility will be similar.
  • First let’s look at the carbon costs associated with getting in your car and driving somewhere to shop. According to the 2001 National Household Travel Survey, the average shopping trip by car in the United States is 7.5 miles round trip. Again, this is an average. If you live in a city, your trip may be shorter. If you live in a rural community, your average shopping trip may be much longer.  source
  • The average American car gets 23.9 miles per gallon of gasoline.  source
  • Each gallon of gasoline burned by an automobile engine leads to the release of 19.4 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere.  source

Now put all that together to get the following equation:

Equation

  • There are also costs associated with the energy needed to heat or air condition the bricks-and-mortar store. All those bright lights don’t stay lit for free either. Based on comparison of online versus retail bookstores, we calculate that a $50 purchase in a store requires heating, cooling and lighting energy equivalent to the release of 5.2 pounds of CO2.  source
  • So the total comparative CO2 burden associated with buying an item at a local store would be 11.3 pounds of CO2 (6.1 lbs from your car plus 5.2 lbs from the store).
  • Next let’s find the carbon costs of buying one item online. UPS estimates that is takes 0.1 gallons of fuel to deliver each package. That is equal to 1.9 pounds of CO2. But the UPS estimate includes both local and long distance ground transportation. As we’ve already noted, in terms of transportation we are only including the local miles (i.e., the costs of bringing the package from the local UPS or US Postal Service distribution center to your house). So we are going to adjust this number downward by 25% and say that each package is equal to 1.4 pounds of CO2.  source
  • The package you order online also has energy costs and carbon dioxide associated with the building it came from. The energy costs associated with a warehouse or distribution center are much lower than those of a mall store. We calculate a $50 item ordered online is responsible for building energy costs equivalent to 0.4 pounds of CO2.  source
  • We also have to calculate the additional CO2 associated with packing the item for shipping. The item you order online often arrives in an outer corrugated cardboard box, plus some type of cushioning (e.g., foam peanuts, crushed paper, inflated plastic pillows). For this estimate, we are saying that the shipping box is about the size of a case of beer. That would be equal to 0.5 pounds of cardboard, which has an associated charge of 0.4 pounds of CO2. Some inflatable plastic cushioning “pillows” might easily be equivalent to 4 plastic grocery bags. At 0.1 lbs CO2 per bag, that’s another 0.4 lbs CO2. The total CO2 for packing materials is therefore 0.8 lbs.
  • So the total CO2 for an item bought online and delivered to your door is 3.9 lbs (1.9 lbs from the local trucks plus 0.4 lbs from the buildings plus 0.8 lbs for the shipping boxes).
  • The carbon savings realized by buying an item online rather than driving to a store is the difference between 11.3 lbs and 3.9 lbs, which is 7.4 lbs of CO2.

Buying online can also save you money. Often, even with shipping costs, it is cheaper to buy something online than it is to buy the same item from a nearby brick-and-mortar store. Stores need to pay for all that heating, air conditioning, lighting, and fancy displays. They pass those costs on to you. A warehouse distribution center doesn’t have as many energy costs associated with each item. Also, when you comparison shop online, you can find the best deal from an individual or company with the best reviews. A new HDTV bought from an online retailer with free shipping can be hundreds of dollars less than the cheapest local store, even after the store’s rebate. And don’t forget used items! A lightly-used wool sweater might cost you a third what the same sweater costs new in the mall.

There you have it. Take off your coat. Put away the car keys. Bring that shopping list to the nearest computer and strike up a chorus of “Wells Fargo Wagon.” It’s time to get clicking, Rallyers. The trucks are waiting to bring you your widgets.

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DreadyAlex about 2 years ago
i work at UPS and can say with the hundreds of miles of belts, machinery, tugs, trams, feeders, company trucks, planes, and the commute of the 6,000 package handling employees there, combined with the extra packaging, the labeling, shipping papers, and everything else involved in moving these packages most likely evens out the amount of CO2 released in going to the store yourself v. ordering it online. i agree with cerridwyneldritch that if you can, combine all your errands into one trip if possible. but i will also add that every package flown/delivered makes a difference. a couple extra packages can affect how many ULDs go into a plane, which can affect how many planes are required for transfer.
Harlequin over 2 years ago
Yes, it would reduce CO2 from YOUR car, but what about the delivery truck? Or even the PLANE that delivers these goods from foreign countries.
CerridwynEldritch about 3 years ago
Methinks perhaps GabbieGreen did not read the challenge page… If it was just your package, and your package alone, riding the plane and truck, then, yes, that would be a huge amount of CO2 being dumped. However, both the plane and truck are filled with shipments headed in your general direction – i.e., carpool for packages – and since you are likely not going to be driving out to pick it up, instead, allowing the postal carrier drop it off on its route, then you end up saving CO2 for not having your vehicle on the road as well. So, then, the question is, how to make your online shopping more beneficial to the environment. Firstly, when looking at shipping rates, use the slowest delivery service possible. Quite often the longest wait is often, due to where it’s being delivered from, just a few days – not much longer than if you decided to overnight it or do two-day delivery. Remember to ask to have items packaged together instead of sent out as made available – saving on packaging. And lastly, but certainly not the least: whenever possible, opt for used. Often used items available for purchase are as good a quality as used and, depending on the person doing the selling, they may used recycled packaging as well. Besides this, in some cases driving to the store you wish to make your purchase isn’t sensible – especially if the only place you find the item in question available is out of state. Essentially – use common sense when making your purchases online. If you can walk to the store – great. If it makes more sense to buy something online because the closest retailer is ten, twenty, thirty miles away – go for it. Or at least if you insist on driving to the store, remember to carpool and try to combine as many errands in the area as possible.
CerridwynEldritch about 3 years ago
This is something I do often, especially since the closest bookstores, formerly in the fairly nearby mall, have both closed. A travesty, I tell you, a travesty! Therefore my book shopping, when I can't find what I want online or at the local library, as well as some other purchases (shoes and jeans - both desperately needed replacing - heck, my shoes were talking more than me) are often done online. Since there's no bookstore at the mall anymore, don't see any reason for me to go there anymore either, with the exception of the odd movie at its theater, of course.
GabbieGreen about 3 years ago
how does this help the enviorment when now if you order it you waste more paper by packaging and puts a bunch of co2 into the air when your order gets delivered using a plane and a truck to get to you?
GoingGreene about 3 years ago
I ordered wedding gifts on line...twice.
jwlover over 3 years ago
how about all the co2 that is being emitted into the air when a plane helps deliver the products to you ? and also the delivery truck .
jozybear over 3 years ago
good.
Administrator almost 4 years ago
Mshelton: By our calculations, ff you can walk to the store, it is superior to ordering on line. Thanks for the qustion!
mshelton07 almost 4 years ago
So I read the background text, but I have one quick question - Since the CO2 usage of a warehouse is less than a regular store, if we take the car trip to get to the store out of equation (I live 2 blocks from the nearest grocery store, so I walk and I get most of my produce from a CSA, which has a delivery stop less than a mile away), is it still more eco friendly for me to order online? Thanks!
sustainability almost 4 years ago
this depends on where you live. so many companies only use fedex, and we don't have fedex always coming out to our rural area. usps, of course, is a daily delivery to our pobox whether or not we, ourselves have a package. and if they will not leave the package without a signature, there may be more than one trip. or you have to travel to the pickup site. this just happened to us with a book my ex was sending to my son.... this is not a simple black or white challenge. also the packaging....i have ordered from very concientious shippers on ebay, and from totally wasteful ones.
joelle almost 4 years ago
I'm concern about this challenge, because I think the waste of the packaging is way bigger than the CO2 in the air... Take out for food or just ordering books on amazon and you get several big boxes with tones of foam chips and plastic bags with air on it and so on... can you tell me why this is a good challenge?
dm60462 almost 4 years ago
This is a great way for people in Cook County, IL to avoid paying the highest sales tax in the country (imposed by the unelected “Toddler” Stroger and his Thugocracy).
Krista about 4 years ago
except the mail truck creates co2
rallyer27171 about 4 years ago
An easy one for someone who hates shopping. =)
ceecee2294 about 4 years ago
This is so much easier than going to a store. I always had issues with finding things in the stores anyway.
jbj727 about 4 years ago
Wow really more green than I thought!!! HSN and QVC can verify!!!
Ricwest about 4 years ago
OK got it... XMAS and holidays will never be the same...
Apsi about 4 years ago
I'm curious. I may reduce CO2 but think about all that wasted paper and cardboard as a result of online shipping. Either way I think this is a great challenge
StrawberryKiss26 about 4 years ago
I actually buy a lot of thing on internet, not because I don't wanna go to the store but is easier! and you can find more things :) I'm happy to know this helps the enviroment too
susanleibowitz about 4 years ago
Buying on line means UPS or Fed Ex drives and then there's the packaging which is OUT OF HAND. I think doing errands efficiently or even better walking to the store makes more sense
BonnieO about 4 years ago
Does avoiding a cab help? Sold my car a few years ago. Rent only when I have to. But I'm a big online shopper.
Julie1313 about 4 years ago
I love to buy online:) Less traffic & headache!!!
icarusfactor about 4 years ago
I ordered a cd online not OT3P though, new OT3P is not out yet, I could save more, if it was and have some more good tunes to boot.
melonee about 4 years ago
i am totally for this method. I am now a current activist of buying clothes over the internet. Besides sometimes you can even find better things for a cheaper price. Also! that one truck is delivering to way more homes than just you driving to your local mall and back
Mags about 4 years ago
I think some people miss the big picture here. In some cases the products may have a warehouse in your local area and can one truck can deliver to many homes. This saves a lot of individual traveling. In some cases products are shipped direct from the warehouse which saves trucks delivering to individual stores, which saves gas. Some companies don't even have real stores, which saves tons of on-site store utility and maintenance costs. Any way you look at it on-line is more cost effective. (You also save tons of money not receiving all those paper receipts at stores.)
Administrator about 4 years ago
Hi All. Thanks for getting this good discussion going. When we looked at the avg amount of energy consumed by driving to a store, and the energy consumed by the store itself, we found that it requires less energy to have your stuff delivered on a truck that shares space with hundreds of other packages. If anyone finds contrary data, please share it here or send it to feedback@carbonrally.com, so we can consider making adjustments to the numbers. Regarding the benefits of supporting local stores, this is an excellent point and trade-off to consider. If the item you want is available from a local store you care about, you may want to choose shopping there over saving some pounds of CO2.
michelle1.roxs about 4 years ago
I think that everyone that thinks this challenge does not help AT ALL is right. Comments? Send me an email at michelle1.roxs@gmail.com.
Kayleigh[: about 4 years ago
I would, but my parents don't want their credit card number out on the internet, they think it'll get stolen or something. Also, wouldn't the big UPS or Fedex truck take up MORE GAS going to your house, then your car? I don't see the difference.. I agree with Zoldike (:
Zoldike about 4 years ago
Sorry, but how does the good get delivered? Someone also needs to drive it to your place! I really dont think this helps at all..
chewbaca56 about 4 years ago
This is what I do anyway so it is not much of a challenge for me. I have not had a car since 2002. I walk to work and take public transportation. Buying on line is wonderful. I buy only what I NEED. Impulsive buyiny as you roam through the store/mall disappears. I am able to save thousands of dollars from not owning a car also: no gas, no insurance, no auto repair, no parking fees........ :)
purppLET about 4 years ago
i'm going to order some makeup online! I like this challenge becuase its always fun to have a little present on your door step!
rallyer24508 about 4 years ago
i bougth my nextel online today
rallyer24363 about 4 years ago
iv done this challenge lots of times we rarely get out
Verdant Buckshot about 4 years ago
wow, based on a lot of the issues people have raised, it's pretty apparent that a fair number of you ralliers haven't bothered to read all the background text. That said, no argument that it's not a slam dunk, and there are obviously any number of variables. Anyway, in the event your particular set of variables align in favor of an online purchase, if your online retailer is accessable through www.climatecooler.com , looks like they're promising to off set the carbon associated w/ whatever it is you're buying.
rallyerjodi about 4 years ago
um i shop online all the time anyway, but wouldn't it increase carbon emmissions because of all the delivery trucks burning gas????
asnxbbyx113 about 4 years ago
i bought printer ink online yesterday. :)
DzinerMW about 4 years ago
Of course, twilightislove, either a credit card or PayPal will always be used for purchases online. But I can show you how to get refunded 1 - 30%! If you’d like to know how, to start saving real $$ and truly GO GREEN, plz contact me directly.... Enjoy! DzinerMW@ix.netcom.com
twilightislove about 4 years ago
Don't you have to use a credit card??
DzinerMW about 4 years ago
Living GREEN effectively is my passion! I can teach you to shop online for everyday needs, buy GREEN, & get CASH BACK. It’s not easy for everyone, but if you’re truly interested I’d be happy to help you learn how. Enjoy! DzinerMW@ix.netcom.com
Plutarian about 4 years ago
Instead of going to the store to buy new sheets and bed sets I bought mine online. Then I had them shipped ground to save even more!! Took longer to get them, but I saved money too. Buying online has an added plus of usually not requiring sales tax, and no need to put gas in the tank.
Philippe Lignon about 4 years ago
This idea is good, but the impact is not as big as thought. In fact, if we don't take the car to the shop, the good anyway will come to your house. I mean by that you don't spend any fuel to go to the shop, but the one who will bring your goods at home will do it. The result in term of CO2 emission is the same. The only saving can be done by the fact that the van that will deliver the goods to several houses will drive a little less distance than all the car moving to the shop because it will do a round trip. So this only works if we are a big number to do that.
rallyer_on_the_farm about 4 years ago
I live about 50 miles (round trip) from a major store so shopping at amazon.com for my son B-day present was great. I got him 2 used games, which save on new manufacturing and plastic wrapping. They both came in the everyday mail delivery. Which is delivered by a Honda Element. It's ALL GOOD!!
MustangShannie about 4 years ago
I guess I'll overtake my husband Ebay account... heh heh
branflakes12 about 4 years ago
I do a lot of online shopping. I absolutely love amazon.com, and that's what I have used to purchase 3 friends birthday gifts.
mazoia12 about 4 years ago
Me too, i love Ebay! 5t gives you time to sit and chill!:)!
Yeti about 4 years ago
?????????? an apple a day keeps the doctor away!
tahsina_826 about 4 years ago
i love buying things on ebay, i get good deals plus i sit home and CHILL!!! i hate wasting gas money anyways.
ashleymaria about 4 years ago
I bought a mess of Pac Sun clothes online instead of at the store. And then i ended getting a lot of stuff you cant buy in the store here. and they have amazing online deals and exclusives.
Babi K621 about 4 years ago
This really works! I got my mom to buy my stuff from Aeropostale instead of buying it at the store, and I feel great about it!
Shorty3 about 4 years ago
i love buying thing on-line! I just bought the new Moto W233 Renew on-line!! And it is made out of recyled water bottles!
candyannkhams_85706 about 4 years ago
If you want to support local small businesses, this won't work. I love buying books from Amazon, because the discounts are wonderful, but what does it do to my local bookstore?
hiz_dream818 about 4 years ago
ii jsss oredered a neww pair of shoesss on line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chynarose about 4 years ago
I love ordering stuff online, You can save alot on gas, and you dont even have to get up to go to the store, =]
speedy about 4 years ago
I buy most of all my clothes online. I hate going shopping.
SarKenobi about 4 years ago
I just bought most of my groceries online from a local grocery store called New Seasons Market. Their delivery vans are run on BioDiesel, and all nine of their grocery stores in the Portland, OR metro area deliver! The grocery chain itself is kinda like Whole Foods Market but a lot more local. They put out $10 coupons through email once a month so I could use them to waive the usual $10 delivery fee. Their online selection isn't the entire store worth of products, but it's a good place to get most of my groceries and cut down on having to travel for lots of groceries once a month!
clar-ughhh :] about 4 years ago
hey :) so i took this, and bought all of my clothes online at forever21.com, instead of driving and hour and a half both ways, to the only mall locally :]
softball_track_xo13 about 4 years ago
i just bought stuff online at american eagle (ae.com) and lulu's (lulus.com) and i got free shipping and discount codes without having to wait in line at a dressing room:]
myy dougieee:D about 4 years ago
i live in a REALLY small town in mt and the nearest city that actually SELLS clothes is a good 150-mile round trip and the towns nearby are already kind of deserted and no stores ever really have anything good as far as reading material and all that so for a person like me this choice is obvious oh and the post office is like a half mile down the road :D oh and i get sweeet discounts!
kiwi about 4 years ago
Buying online from a green business makes it even sweeter! I like www.simpleshoes.com
Matt about 4 years ago
This challenge makes no sense! It goes against the "stop the idle threat" challenge and "less cow right now" challenge. Looks like Carbon Rally may be getting desperate for challenges. It would take me 10 minutes to drive to the store to get what I want. If I buy it online it's probably traveling at least for 2-3 hours (probably more) before it finally arrives at my house.
LEEEP about 4 years ago
Don't forget that the item has to get to you somehow. So even though you aren't driving, someone else is to make the delivery. And what about supporting the local community stores that employ your neighbors? What about creating sustainable communities? Better just not to buy stuff, unless it is something you really truly need. And most things besides food and shelter we don't really truly need, do we? Kudos to the people who are at least buying products made from recycled materials.
mount10bikr about 4 years ago
I just bought a book online (the Next Sustainability Wave, Bob Willard). Saved CO2 AND my purchase price was less.
aquamania about 4 years ago
i just bought stuff at forever21 .com and got free shipping and of course a bunch new things to wear(:
lece155 about 4 years ago
I bought these shoes from Urbanoutfitters today online. They are made of recycled fabric, and were on sale! Triple the gain!
Katrina about 4 years ago
I don't drive to the mall, I take the bus, but even so, I try to buy more stuff online not only because it saves energy but it's also convenient. There are a few drawbacks (like not being able to try things on, and therefore risking paying more to return or exchange via the internet) but it is easier to find neat, unique pieces (try ModCloth and Etsy, they're some of my favs!) You can usually find discounts through signing up for emails or checking sites like RetailMeNot.com, which often has free shipping or other discount codes. I would like to shop locally but as a poor college student, independent local stores are often expensive. But I'm not giving up ;)
chelsea1941 about 4 years ago
i buy from ebay and overstock all the time i love it (nd alota times its cheaper) :]
comforting_cloud about 4 years ago
I like shopping online because many stores offer a plethora of selections online and i definitely love not have to wait in line for waiting room or check out
peacelaughbritt about 4 years ago
well its always awsome to try news things so im in :)
love.tokiohotel.rpattz. about 4 years ago
taken from the article
love.tokiohotel.rpattz. about 4 years ago
for people who don't like this challenge And those big delivery trucks aren’t the gas guzzlers they once were. Both UPS and the US Postal Service have been revamping their truck fleets, replacing older trucks that burn diesel with newer hybrid or all-electric vehicles. Delivery services save time and money by planning the most efficient routes and carrying the most packages on the fewest trucks. So, it is in their best interest for your package to travel as efficiently from Point A to your door as possible.
MaxDunn about 4 years ago
It is a drag to pay for shipping, but driving costs money too - about $0.50 per mile. For instance, driving 7.5 miles to the store and back will cost about $3.75. So we should take this into account when considering shipping costs.
madametj about 4 years ago
I wouldn't have a problem with this if I didnt feel like I was throwing my money away on shipping
love.tokiohotel.rpattz. about 4 years ago
I always order things online @ Amazon. If you like Delia's shirts, go onto Amazon, and type in Junk Food tees.
gnodoubt about 4 years ago
I love to shop, but sometimes those crowds are a little annoying. So for about 4 years now, I've been shopping online and I love it. You can't really try them on, but it saves a ton of time and they have great deals.
birdman (Carbonrally) about 4 years ago
If you can shop locally without using your car, that is the best thing.
Administrator about 4 years ago
Hi All. Thanks for getting this good discussion going. When we looked at the avg amount of energy consumed by driving to a store, and the energy consumed by the store itself, we found that it requires less energy to have your stuff delivered on a truck that shares space with hundreds of other packages. If anyone finds contrary data, please share it here or send it to feedback@carbonrally.com, so we can consider making adjustments to the numbers. <br><br> Regarding the benefits of supporting local stores, this is an excellent point and trade-off to consider. If the item you want is available from a local store you care about, you may want to choose shopping there over saving some pounds of CO2.
HANNAH about 4 years ago
yes, so do i. i mean the store is probably closer to your house than the warehouse in a different state. when we order things online, they sometimes come from Illinois, and i live in California. the store is a LOT closer to our house than Illinois! i also think that thi is not the best challenge.
GoGreen about 4 years ago
I agree with rallyer15272. I don't think that this is the best challenge.
jaketcbm about 4 years ago
Yes, you will (almost) always find the lowest prices online. The exception is when a local store is having a blowout/going out of business sale, of which we are seeing increasingly more of. Why could this be? What this challenge doesn't tell you is that by buying directly from warehouses and stores in the hinterlands, you're taking away business from your local businesses. Picture your favorite local bookstore, record shop, or unique gift boutique. Now picture all of their selections, multiplied by 10, available online for cheaper prices (think Amazon, iTunes, and eBay). It's hard to say no, right? Now picture the streets of your city, completely void of any local shops, lacking jobs, and missing any element of life besides, perhaps, restaurants and grocery stores (but now you can order your food and groceries online!). We will become (even more than we are now) a nation of strangers who sits in their individual homes, in front of their TV and computer screens, living lives of "convenience" without any sense of community. So now ask yourself - is it worth paying the extra couple of dollars to support the "maintenance costs" of owning a local store? I think so. If we continue to apply our paradigm of "efficiency first" to everything (including climate change) we risk becoming more machine than society. The carbon benefits of online shopping compared to other associated costs are negligible at best.
rallyer15272 about 4 years ago
If you don't take the trip to the store to buy whatever it is you want, then a bigger, less effeciant vehicle will have to deliver it to you from farther away. this challange is not preventing any greenhouse gas emmissions. Think about what your actions. comeon guys.
purplefuzz22 about 4 years ago
Agree with what?
green is the new PINK89 about 4 years ago
I agree