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Setback Payback Featured on Jan 02, 2009

Challenge

Want to save money on your heating bill and also reduce CO2? It's as simple as getting with the program.

Individual Result

Using a programmable thermostat for 1 month will eliminate 200 lbs of CO2 and save $32.

Rally Impact

3154 people have reduced CO2 emissions by 310.28 tons by completing this challenge so far. That's equal to turning off the electricity of 339 homes for about 1 month!

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There was a time when saying the word “program” in reference to a home appliance sent shivers of terror through helpless consumers. “Programmable” was something people said about VCRs and we all know how that worked. In our houses, unless we intervened, the VCR was constantly blinking 12:00 and was never used to record anything if it involved interacting with the menu. One time, my father missed taping a college basketball game and he literally cried. It was the VCR’s fault, he thought. You can’t trust anything “programmable” because the darned devices have their own agendas. Luckily, decades pass and our paranoia eases somewhat. Today, my father can program a DVR, a universal remote, and his new programmable thermostat. Civilization advances.

This Featured Challenge is based on suggestions made by karens and melaniestair. To date, their suggestions have received 20 positive votes each in our Challenge Workshop. Karens has taken 54 Challenges so far and is a member of the Beyond Green team. Melaniestair has taken a whopping 150 Challenges so far and is a member of OTEP’s Green Team, still in first place in the All Teams and General League categories on our 30-Day Leaderboard.

The Carbon Connection
Keeping your home warm requires a lot of energy. Furnaces and boilers either burn natural gas or fuel oil to heat the air or water used to heat your home. Turning your thermostat down means your furnace or boiler runs less and burns less fuel. The less fuel oil or natural gas you burn, the fewer pounds of carbon dioxide get released into the air. A programmable thermostat is an electronic device that turns your thermostat down for you. It “sets back” the temperature in your home when you aren’t at home during the day and at night when you’re asleep. It does the job automatically, without you having to think about it. Used correctly, this saves the environment hundreds of extra pounds of carbon dioxide.

Using a programmable thermostat can also save you cold, hard cash. According to US Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration (EIA), the average U.S. household will spend $1,137 to stay warm this winter. That is a 15% increase over last winter’s $986 average total heating bill. The largest increases will be in households using heating oil and natural gas. The EIA says you can lower your home heating costs by about 5 percent for every 1 degree lower you set the thermostat. Proper use of a programmable thermostat can lower your home heating costs by 30% a month, which is about $40 a month at current energy prices. Not bad for something you can set and forget.

Getting It Done
Here are a few suggestions about installing and using a programmable thermostat to lower the costs and lower carbon emissions from home heating:

  • This Challenge was written for those of you who have furnaces burning either natural gas or fuel oil. If you use steam heat, you cannot use a programmable thermostat. If you use electric baseboard heating, radiant floor heating, or if you have a heat pump, you may be able to use programmable thermostats, but not the kind typically found on hardware store shelves. You will need to consult a heating professional. If you do have a furnace that burns either fuel oil or natural gas, read on.
  • The first thing you need to do is choose the right programmable thermostat to meet your needs. There are many models and manufacturers to choose from. Most of them will control both your heating and cooling systems. In general, programmable thermostats come in three basic types. Some thermostats (the 5 + 2 type) allow you to have one program for the weekdays and then a second program that applies to both days of the weekends. Others (the 5 + 1+ 1 type) allow you to have different programs for Saturday and Sunday. And then there are 7 day thermostats that allow you to have a different setting for every day of the week. Choose the type of thermostat depending on how regular your schedule happens to be.
  • After you’ve chosen the basic type of programmable thermostat, then you can start looking at some of the specific extra features found on different models. Some thermostats have touch screens or backlit display panels. Some have sensors that monitor your air filters. Some try to learn how quickly your house heats up or cools off and then adjusts when it turns the furnace on. Depending on the feature set, a programmable thermostat should cost you between $25 and $90.
  • Next, you need to install the programmable thermostat. Usually, this involves replacing an already-existing manual thermostat. For good advice on how to install your new thermostat yourself, see the how-to videos at This Old House and Lowes. If, after you’ve watched those videos, you feel this project may be too much for you, rest assured that a heating professional or an electrician will be glad to help you out. Don’t worry. The money you save by using less energy will not only pay for the thermostat itself, but pay for the installation as well.
  • Now that your thermostat is installed, it’s time to program it to work with your schedule. Programmable thermostats typically come with 4 time setting periods per day. Two of these are “normal” temperature settings. One normal setting is for when you wake up in the morning before you go to work or school; the other normal setting is for when you come home from work or school in the late afternoon or early evening. The other two time settings are “setback” settings — time periods when the temperature is set back or turned down 8 degrees. One setback period is for the time when you are away from home, such as the time you are at home or work during a weekday. The other setback period is when you are in bed at night, tucked away under warm blankets. When you program your thermostat, you will need to adjust the time when these 4 time periods begin and end so that it matches your own schedule, both for weekdays and weekends.
  • Finally, don’t get in the thermostat’s way. Let it do its job. Don’t shorten the setback periods. Try to keep those weekdays such that the temperature in your house is set back 16 out of 24 hours. (You’re either not there or you’re asleep. It isn’t as much time as it sounds like!) And no using the Hold button to override the programming all the time. You won’t be saving money or carbon if you keep the temperature at the higher temperature for longer periods of time.

Already installed a programmable thermostat? What brand do you use? How well does it work? Share your thoughts, stories, and suggestions with your fellow Rallyers in the Challenge forum section below.

Rules of the Challenge
This Challenge asks that you do two things: 1) install a programmable thermostat if you don’t already have one; and 2) use the programmable thermostat correctly so that you set back the temperature in your home at night when you’re asleep and during the weekdays when you are at work or at school. By using a programmable thermostat to control your home heating for the next month, you will save 248.7 lbs of CO2. This Challenge is repeatable. You should repeat the Challenge each month that you use heating after you start using your programmable thermostat.

Learn More
Energy Star: Programmable Thermostats
This Old House: How to Install a Programmable Thermostat
US Dept. of Energy: Your Home, Thermostats and Control Systems

See the Math
Rather than start from scratch this time, we’ve used the Programmable Thermostat Savings Calculator provided by Energy Star. Here are the numbers or assumptions we’ve plugged in or changed to get our Challenge payoff:

  • The amount of energy you need to keep your home warm and toasty depends a lot on where you live and how many days a year you need to turn on the furnace. For example, a home in Connecticut needs to use its furnace 6 times as many days per year as a home in Georgia. For the purposes of our calculations, we’ve chosen St. Louis, Missouri as our average American-heating-consumer city. Some of you live in regions where you need to use your furnace more; some of you live where you need to use your furnace less.
  • Energy Star certified programmable thermostats come preprogrammed with a 70 degree normal temperature setting and a 62 degree setback temperature. The calculator assumes that you will set back your daytime temperatures on the weekend as well as the weekdays. We kept the temperatures the same, but took out the weekend daytime setbacks.
  • We also changed the fuel costs to match current national averages. We used $2.98 per gallon of fuel oil and $20 per thousand cubic feet of natural gas. (That’s equal to about $2 per therm.)
  • Setting the calculator with the above settings, we see that the average dollar savings from using the programmable thermostat to set back temperatures is close to $200 for the heating season. (Actual numbers range from $190 for a gas furnace to $212 for an oil-burning boiler.) The heating season is assumed to be 5 months long. So your savings works out to $40 per month average for the season.
  • The amount of carbon dioxide released when you burn fuel oil is different than the amount released when your burn natural gas. The calculator uses the following EPA conversions: 161.27 lbs CO2 per million BTUs (MBTU) from burning fuel oil and 116.97 lbs CO2 per MBTU from burning natural gas.
  • Again with the above settings, the calculator shows that you will reduce your energy expenditure by 10 MBTUs per heating season. That number does not depend on whether you are burning natural gas or fuel oil.
  • Multiply 10 MBTU by each conversion factor to find the amount of CO2 not released per heating season by homes using the two different fuels. That gives us 1612.7 lbs CO2 for homes burning fuel oil and 1169.7 for homes burning natural gas.
  • Remember that we are calling our average heating season 5 months long. Divide each number by 5 to get CO2 savings per month: 322.5 lbs CO2 saved per month for fuel oil homes and 233.9 lbs CO2 saved per month for natural gas homes.
  • There are 5 times as many homes using natural gas for their heating as there are homes using fuel oil. To get our final carbon savings, we did a weighted average of the CO2 savings for homes using fuel oil and homes using natural gas. That gives us 248.7 lbs CO2 saved per month by using a programmable thermostat.
  • Finally, we see that the Energy Star calculator assumes that you are starting from having your home at a constant temperature of 70 degrees for the entire heating season. And very few of you probably do that. So for many of you, this Challenge is to improve your home heating consciousness. To allow for that and to allow for other variations in heating behavior (e.g., working from home one day a week and not wanting to freeze, etc.), we are taking 20% off the results for the Challenge. That gives us a final result of 200 lbs CO2 and $32 saved per month by using a programmable thermostat.

Think of it this way. If no one is home on weekday mornings and afternoons, there’s no reason to heat the house as if someone is there. Set back the heat! The plants won’t mind and the cats have fur. And at night, throw an extra quilt on the bed and bundle up. Set back the heat; save yourself some money; and save a lot of carbon this heating season. Keep toasty, Rallyers!

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rallyer66861 7 months ago
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arlydon almost 2 years ago
I think turn off all the appliances in the house to reduce heat and that way we can save more money in our electric bill. If you are going to bed make sure you turn off the lights for the sake of saving.
annebh about 2 years ago
I do not have a programable thermostat, but instead of turning on the heat, I put on another sweater and/or use a throw when watching TV. At night I add an extra blanket.
amerigreenbag over 3 years ago
This is the good one I agreed. installed a programmable thermostat and waiting for the changes
Nika over 3 years ago
Love it! Already in progress and ready to see some changes.
kbe over 3 years ago
We have no programmable thermostat in our apartment but adjust the heating every morning and evening. Usually 19°C during the day and 15°C to 17°C at night (not allowed less by the condo board).
rallyer27039 about 4 years ago
The programmable thermostat is not only an environmental saver, but is a money saver too! Out here where it's HOT - it saves energy and $.
Peter Crivello about 4 years ago
I have been using a programmable Thermostat for a few years now. I have been replacing the windows in the house as well with newer ones that are more energy efficient. I just sealed around the outside of all the windows and doors as well to make sure we are not loosing heat and air out the cracks.
EMERALD about 4 years ago
13 YEARS AND COUNTING!
Nicole Mitchell about 4 years ago
Already doing this...I also keep the house warmer in the summer and cooler in the winter to use less air & heat in general.
sweetpeasgot8 about 4 years ago
We have a programmable thermostat, here in Florida it helps because the AC would be running all the time.
ameliacarder about 4 years ago
i already have a programmable thermostat...and instead of automatically using the heater we use the fireplace alot!
wickedawesome Max about 4 years ago
I LOVE this Challenge!!!!!!!!!! It is so cool because I have used a programmable thremo for 6 years and I havent even noticed!!!!!!!
Plutarian about 4 years ago
I already had a programmable therm., but I had other issues that caused me still to waste energy like crazy. For those who have central Heat and Air, I recommend you do the following. I have progress and energy for my electric companies, and I was finding during the really cold nights here in FL my bill skyrocketed to almost $200. I live by myself, and I was keeping the heat between 68-72 degrees. I looked into P&Es energy saving programs, and had a home energy check done (it's free for their customers). It turns out the duct work for my air and heat unit was in very poor condition. So they scheduled me a duct inspection (for customers, they pay $30 and you pay $30!). Turns out whoever put in the system did a really bad job, and my air was leaking out everywhere. They gave me an estimate of $360, but I qualified for P&E to pay $150.00 (ducted electrical heat) of the repairs! So once I get the repairs done, my thermostat will once again be worth something to my unit!
love.not.hate about 4 years ago
I just moved to dubai and instead od heating 24/7 we have to use the AC 24/7..is there any way i can save electicy wit the AC?
TNJdancer about 4 years ago
We've used a programable thermostat for several years, and it really saves a fortune! We have one that controls our main floor and upstairs floor temperature, and then one that's for our basement. We don't use our basement that much, so that one is always set at a much cooler temperature, which saves a LOT of money. If your not down there, why waste the heat right?
Kim1360 about 4 years ago
We've used a programmable thermostat for several years. Ours is a White-Rogers and is very simple to use. I like it cool in the house, especially when I'm busy with chores but if you want a little 'bump' for i.e. company for a few hours, a simple push of the button. It automatically goes back to program. Also works the central air. I had to move it when doing some remodeling and it was simple to re- install.
wickedawesome Max about 4 years ago
I have already been using one for over 5 years now and I just noticed it, too
O-sidegreen about 4 years ago
I live in the San Diego area, and I rarely use the heater. I think I used it once or twice in December, but otherwise you'll see plenty of blankets around my house :)
rallyer20053 about 4 years ago
we have one but i gave it up cause my mom showed me how to cover the doorways with blankets to keep the cold out
rallyer18650 about 4 years ago
i really love how everyone here is truly Genuine in helping the environment...my heat always on low any way i rather sleep in the cold then be hot/warm n sweaty
babigurl379 about 4 years ago
I already have that and i turn down heat when im not here so it works out fine
Gil over 4 years ago
We have 2 zone heat and A/C, both controlled by programmable thermostats, set at 70 degrees during the day and 68 at night. The A/C units double as heat pumps, which I use instead of the oil furnace, whenever possible.
BethicusVAQ over 4 years ago
I rent and can't install a new thermostat, per my lease. I believe I take even more initiative to remember to turn down my thermostat when I leave the house, am cooking or am sleeping. I hope to find a challenge that appreciates that effort.
stapes over 4 years ago
We adopted a programmable thermostat with our new home 2 years ago. It's the best! (once you learn how to use it...) We don't need the heat so high when we're sleeping or at work, so we programmed it accordingly. This has reduced our heating bill enormously, in addition to putting a stop to wasted energy!
rallygrl9254 over 4 years ago
Our programmable thermostat has stopped the "temperature wars" in our home. It has been the best - especially when we see how much lower our PG&E bills are!
rallyer14888 over 4 years ago
Who doesn't have a programmable thermostat?....I'm always finding great sweaters that I wouldn't wear outside the house. Set at 58 daytime and 65 at night at 5pm to7am. Works for us in northern California. leon@dripworks.biz
greenlisag over 4 years ago
one helpful hint- if you can't find your manual for your existing thermostat, just google it & then find the brand, model & style. I speak from experience - took 10 minutes to save some dough & CO2. :-)
dmmoore over 4 years ago
After lowering our thermostats and using the EdenPure heaters we got our first gas bill for the month of December! It was $60.00 - normally runs around $140.00. Our electric bill only went up a little due to the heaters.
weswelkerfan over 4 years ago
This challenge has a big impact and it doesn't take that much time and effort.
ecolo77 over 4 years ago
Done! I have booked an appointment with an electrical company to install a thermostat at my place 2moro ! Thanks ;-)
VSCC-Kindle Farm School over 4 years ago
Our school installed a programmable thermostat the beginning of December. The heat automatically goes down at night and on the weekends to save our school money. It is very efficient.
jukebokz over 4 years ago
I also have a programmable thermostat. It's incredible for savings financially and enviromentally.
5tyX over 4 years ago
This challenge is a breeze for me. I already switched my heater from oil to natural gas and have a programmed thermostat. It's 68 pretty much all the time. The heater only really turns on for short spurts. I am home all day, so I have to keep it tolerable at least.
dmmoore over 4 years ago
My husband and I have decided to go even lower than before! We bought two EdenPure heaters (they work great). We have the thermostat programmed to bring the house to a tolerable temp of 65 when we get home - then we turn on the EdenPure and turn down the thermostate to 58. When we go to sleep the thermostat stays low and we take the heater into the room with us. The second heater is used in the basement when we need to work down there.
preserver over 4 years ago
One of the first things we did when we entered our new home was to install the programmable thermostat - it's probably one of the most effortless things everyone can do to help conserve energy!!
eXtremeAlternatives over 4 years ago
We have used a programmable thermostat for years. We set out house to 58 during the day. At 4pm it's up to 65, then at 10pm back down to 58. We use a small natural gas fireplace to heat a small area in the house and small fans to circulate that heat from the ceiling to the floor.
rallyer13806 over 4 years ago
We've just installed a programmable thermostat and are anxious to see the results.
alaw3444 over 4 years ago
We live in Alaska and it always cold- we use a wood burning stove to heat throughout our house.
rallyer5983 over 4 years ago
We have been using a programmable thermostat ever since we bought our house. We also use a wood burning stove to reduce the amount of oil we use. The wood we burn comes from trees that were fallen during storms, etc.
Green Cardone over 4 years ago
We have had a timer on the thermostat for quite some time. 70 degrees now feels too warm during the day. I just read that someone has it set for 60 degrees during the day....a bit too cold for me. But this is a challenge worth refining.
jenniferkronstain over 4 years ago
i have a programmable thermostat, but i rarely even run the heat unless it becomes oppressively cold outside. blankets are good things!
Emac86 over 4 years ago
This is an all right challenge, especially for those folks who are having an extra difficult time changing their lifestyles; however, I find it strange that the study's temperatures were 70 daytime/62 setback. The highest a thermostat should be set at is 60, and that's really just to keep pipes from freezing. I've learned the magic of wearing lots of layers, keeping throw blankets in the living room, and slippers are also a big help. So I can't honestly take this challenge, as I cannot set back any further.
domer57 over 4 years ago
I've installed a programmable thermostat over the summer. It reduced the household usage quite a bit with savings of $50 - $60 monthly.
sbdriver over 4 years ago
I have had a programmable therostat for 10 years. I bought one with weekday and weekend settings. I can program 4 different settings per day. I very rarely turn it on, mostly because of the cost to my monthly budget. It has luckly been a warm fall so far. I have not turned on the heater since March. And even when it does get used, I shut the vents in the rooms I don't need. I use it primarily to warm the bathroom and my room in the early morning (only on for 30 minutes).I love the off mode.
Aquarius over 4 years ago
We have used programmable thermostats for 14 years--just remember to shut off heat mode when doors and windows are open...
coolio man over 4 years ago
its preety cool dude.Youknooooow
H2O Marc over 4 years ago
Yes agreed, in Singapoire we only COOL so instead of cooling from 30Celcius to 24 C I will raise 1Degree up to 25!
speedy over 4 years ago
we've had one in our house for over a year.
Gothyboi over 4 years ago
I agree, I don't have my heat on either. I live in az and wont need it till at least next month.
pdc33 over 4 years ago
I actually have my heat turned off right now, so I'm saving even more then using my programmable thermostat. I live in Maryland.
birdman (Carbonrally) over 4 years ago
Fried Dough: Can you tell us what Brand/Model thermo you use for your steam heat? Would you recommend it? Thanks.
roy over 4 years ago
We've used a programmable thermostat for years. Used to have a "magicstat" model, which had an almost impossible to penetrate user interface. Recently replaced it with a newer Honeywell model, with much improved interface. Both models are clever about anticipating when to turn on the heat (we don't have a/c) so that the house is up to desired temperature when scheduled. Kind of like magic. Honeywell also had excellent email based customer service. I had a problem with initial configuration and they diagnosed the problem and fixed it with correct advice quickly.
roy over 4 years ago
Many local utility providers will also give you a rebate on your programmable thermostat, for even more savings. Check with your local utility for these programs.
FriedDough over 4 years ago
Just an update on the "Get it Done". I have had Steam heat in my last 2 houses and had a programmable thermostat on each. The thermostats are universal and can be used to replace any wall mounted system thermostat. They work great and I love sleeping when it cool and waking up with a little warmth.
birdman (Carbonrally) over 4 years ago
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birdman (Carbonrally) over 4 years ago
We have RobertShaw thermostats in our house. Took about 15 minutes to set the time and temps. Nobody seems to notice that our house is cooler late at night and during the day.
mdulka over 4 years ago
We've had a programmable thermostat for 6 years and it's the best thing we ever got with our new house. It's wonderful not having to worry about changing it manually and we have weekend times and weekday times on it so we save more energy that way.
Craig over 4 years ago
This is a good one. My programmable unit sets back to 58 during the day when I'm away from home, and 63 for sleeping. Otherwise, it keeps the temp at 67 for when I'm around. Throwing on an extra layer of fleece does the trick.
fitgirl2007 over 4 years ago
My husband installed a programmable thermostat this summer. We have programmed the thermostat for 62 during the day when we are not at home and 68 when we are at home at night or on the weekends. The thermostat is then progammed to drop back down to 62 and night and then go to 68 in the morning for about 2 hours until we go to work.
markk2_19355 over 4 years ago
Go Karen! Good challenge... I was looking at the ads last weekend, ACE has a special on two different models, both energy star. I was planning on doing this anyway at my home this winter and now I can do it GREEN.
dmmoore over 4 years ago
My husband and I have been users of programmable thermostats for years. One thing to remember during the summer it to be sure the thermostat isn't in an area where the sun shines directly on it. It will pick up that it's warm in the house and kick on more frequently. Our old one was behind the TV - needless to say we moved it!