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Curb Your Hunger Featured on Aug 07, 2008

Challenge

Do you use drive-thrus? If so, we challenge you to cut back. Park your car, and go inside to place your order.

Individual Result

Avoiding drive-thrus for food, ATMs, etc. for 1 month will reduce your CO2 emissions by 4.9 lbs.

Rally Impact

3884 people have reduced CO2 emissions by 9.24 tons by completing this challenge so far. That's equal to turning off the electricity of 7 homes for about 1 month!

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When did getting a cup of coffee or a bite to eat become the suburban version of a Nascar pit stop? Americans have had a long-running love affair with their cars. From road trips to drive-in theaters to Winnebagos, our cars have been the center of our mobile universe. Now with the high price of gasoline, we have to break with cultural tradition and park the family beast, if only for a few minutes more this week than last. It’s time to get your fast food more slowly. It’s time you said you’re through with the drive-thru.

This Featured Challenge was originally suggested by Elizabeth Elephant. To date, Elizabeth’s suggestion has received 81 positive votes in our Challenge Workshop. Elizabeth is a proud member of the Royal Acorns team, current leaders in the School League on our 30-Day Leaderboard.

The Carbon Connection
This is the second time we’ve issued a Challenge for Rallyers to idle their cars and trucks less. In the first Challenge, Stop the Idle Threat, we asked you to reduce your idling time by 5 minutes a day for one month. So far, over 1000 people have taken that Challenge and have saved more than 12 tons of CO2. On average, each American car is idled 5 to 10 minutes per day. It is estimated that those cars idle enough each day to burn an additional 3.8 million gallons of gasoline. And they do it, minute by minute, in places like drive-thrus.

You may think that you’re in and out of a drive-thru in a short enough time that it doesn’t matter. But remember that even the little things aren’t that little when taken over time or when added with someone else’s little things. A study by the HERO Program at Clark University in Worcester, MA found that on an average day, 272 cars and 131 trucks used the drive-thru at a popular local fast food restaurant. The total idling time for all of those vehicles for that one day at that one restaurant was over 2200 minutes. That’s over 37 hours of idling, which burned up over 21 gallons of gasoline and released over 400 pounds of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Now, pull back and think about the bigger picture. That’s one day. A full year of idling at that one restaurant would be over 73 tons of CO2. That’s one drive-thru in one town. The study found 78 drive-thrus in Worcester. That’s just under 5700 tons of CO2 released in one medium-sized town each year, just from people idling their cars while waiting 3 minutes to get their double cheeseburger and soft drink. It’s no wonder that towns in Canada are looking seriously at banning new drive-thrus completely .

Getting It Done
There isn’t much to say about how to get this Challenge done. This Challenge is for those of you who use drive-thrus; the Challenge is not for those you who never use drive-thrus. If you take this Challenge, you just need to avoid using a drive-thru window three times in the next month. That probably involves something as ordinary as pulling into a parking spot instead of the drive-thru lane, getting out of your car, and walking inside. Here are few other things you might want to consider:

  • It’s hard to make your own donuts. But there are other things you get at a drive-thru that you might be able to bring from home. Make some muffins. Thaw a frozen bagel. Pack yourself a nice salad or sandwich at home and bring that with you to work or school. Not only will you be saving all that time and energy by not idling your car, but you’ll also be reducing the need for fast food packaging. And you’ll be saving money, too.
  • Maybe fast food is too fast to begin with. Slow down. According to the Mayo Clinic, any exercise can help you unwind and reduce your stress. Park a block away and get a little exercise walking to and from the restaurant.
  • There are, of course, other places with drive-thru windows. Just remember that if there’s a wait in line with your car idling, then the same rules apply: park the car and go inside. Use the ATM that isn’t a drive-thru. Go into the pharmacy to pick up your prescription.
  • And when you get out of your car, you see things you might not see otherwise. Like floss. If you’re in the pharmacy and see floss on your way to the back of the store, you may think to yourself, “Hey, I ran out of that. I should buy that while I’m here.” Presto! You’ve saved yourself a separate trip. And the donut shop where you get your coffee may have a new muffin flavor you didn’t know about or a cute new babe/hunk working the register. You do remember eye contact, don’t you?
  • If you really don’t have a choice but to use a drive-thru, be smart about how you wait in line. Size up the line of cars in front of you. If the line is moving, then you can leave your car running. But if the line is moving in fits and starts, think about turning your engine off until it moves again. The rule of thumb is that if you are going to idle your car for longer than 10 seconds, it’s more efficient to turn the car off and then restart it when you need to move.

Do you have any personal stories of cutting back on idling at drive-thrus? If so, please share them with your fellow Rallyers in the Challenge forum section below.

Rules of the Challenge
This Challenge asks those of you who normally use drive-thrus to avoid them for the next month. Park your car and order your food inside. Bring food from home. At an average of 3 trips through the drive-thru per month and an average stay in line of 9 minutes per trip, we estimate that you will reduce the amount of time you idle your car by 27 minutes over a period of 30 days. By eliminating 27 minutes of idling time, you will reduce your CO2 emissions by 4.9 lbs for the month. This Challenge is repeatable after 30 days.

And for those Rallyers already doing the Stop the Idle Threat Challenge or who may choose to do it now, you may want to consider adding a few extra days or another missed trip to the drive-thru to both Challenges in order to keep your Rally scores accurate.

Learn More
Anti-Idling Primer
Myths About Car Idling (California Energy Commission)
Kicking the Idling Habit

See the Math
Let’s see how avoiding the drive-thru will affect your carbon emissions over the next month. Here are the known or estimated numbers being used for this Challenge:

  • Idling a 4-cylinder car for 5 minutes burns approximately a half cup (4 ounces) of gasoline. Idling an 8-cylinder car for 5 minutes burns about 1 cup (8 ounces) of gasoline. We’ll split the difference and say that idling an average car burns 6 ounces of gasoline for every 5 minutes.  source
  • According to the 2007 Drive-Thru Consumer Survey, the average person who uses drive-thrus uses them 5.7 times every 60 days. We are calling that 3 times per month. If you’re a heavy user, your savings will be greater.  source
  • Based on the same survey, we are saying that the average wait from the time you start ordering your food until the time you receive your food and pull away from the drive-thru window is 3 minutes. Furthermore, we are going to say that there is an average of 2 cars ahead of you in line, each taking 3 minutes. Therefore, your total wait time in the drive- thru line with your car’s motor idling is 9 minutes.
  • Three trips to the drive-thru at 9 minutes each is 27 minutes of unnecessary idling per month.
  • There are 128 fluid ounces in a gallon.
  • The burning of 1 gallon of gasoline by the average car, van, truck, or SUV engine releases 19.4 pounds of CO2 into Earth’s atmosphere.  source
    Equation

Skipping the drive-thru for 30 days equals a savings of 4.9 lbs of CO2. And the savings from the quarter gallon of gas you aren’t burning will just about pay for another order of fries the next time you do walk inside to place your order. Do you want ketchup with that, Rallyers?

Discussion 59 comments so far

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sebj Person about 3 years ago
If I eat fast food(normally Make a sandwich), I sort of need to be inside for it. So I'm cheating on this one.
L0opz almost 4 years ago
yiipii Im Back!!!! McDonalds $ WhatABurguer here I come & truu the DOOR haha
HANABUSA about 4 years ago
I ONLY GO TO DRIVE THRUS WHEN TRAVELING
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LadyBug417 about 4 years ago
i do this but not all the time but half of the drivr-thru's we have u have 2 use cause the indoor area closes b4 the drive-thru. but when the indoor area is open my family goes inside and orders
idbejealoustoo about 4 years ago
Well. I don't really eat from places with drive-thrus. But next time I do, I'll make sure I'll go in and order :)
LenaGreen about 4 years ago
I actually never really thought of this, but I've been doing it all along, I'm so proud of myself.
WhoaNinkaa(: about 4 years ago
Challenge...Accepted! :) Haa :)
lala_cece about 4 years ago
i dont really do the drive throughs but i do the drive through atm thingy... so i suppose that counts.
JR Rallyer about 4 years ago
THIS CHALLENGE DOESN'T LOOK SO HARD.
greenlove about 4 years ago
I haven't gone to fast food places in a while but when I do I have to admit that I use the drive through. But no more I tell ya!
peace;recycle about 4 years ago
i totallly agree with this :)
kristie about 4 years ago
this is such good information! i love it
tinkgirl about 4 years ago
I prefer going in the restaurant anyway.
spirit about 4 years ago
this means getting back more quality time!
GoGreen about 4 years ago
This is an easy challenge! I almost always go in because i like to make sure they get my order right!
ilk42 about 4 years ago
i didn't know helping the environment was so easy :]
Aali009 about 4 years ago
another good thing about going inside is that you can watch your food being made.. and like rallyer12549 said you can make sure they get your order correct!!
rallyer12549 over 4 years ago
I don't eat at any of the BK or McD's, Arbys, etc. At Dunkin Donuts I always go inside - I watch what they're doing with my food and I can make sure I get the right order.
wildone99 over 4 years ago
i love going thru drive thrus. this will be a real challenge.
staceman0109 over 4 years ago
I already do this. Can't stand drive throughs. I never understand what they are saying, and it seems like the car in front of me won't move up enough for me to get to the speaker to place my order in sync with the other drivers. Besides I prefer the human contact.
coolio man over 4 years ago
coolio dude
rallyer2008 over 4 years ago
i don't really enjoy driving thru i like to be in the place for more variaty and choices with time and unrushfulness.
Krystle over 4 years ago
I don't like fast food and I ride my bike almost everywhere. I accept the challenge. It seems like sitting in your car takes longer than walking in and ordering. American habits are funny.
modanna over 4 years ago
this is so great for our earth, i think its really amazing how so little can get such large results
greengrandma over 4 years ago
I like this, I get exercise and pollute less.
Delphinus over 4 years ago
So for this challenge we have to avoid the drive thru at least three times for a month? Three times is all you need (minimum)? I wasn't sure about the requirements.
Laferriere over 4 years ago
I hardly go throughy drivethrus, should be easy?
hind929 over 4 years ago
All it matters is that I am doing something to change the environment.
belmont_rose over 4 years ago
walk is the only way to go! WIN WIN FOR ALL
Chicago Vegan over 4 years ago
This should be an easy one.
perezd_10921 over 4 years ago
I can do this, every morning I stop for coffee through the drive throug, and let the car run. No more. I will be walking into the store. Please more challenges!!!
nancyduggan_07960 over 4 years ago
Faith11, it's great that the burger joint in your town has taken that step to cater to walkers, skaters, bikers. A while ago I rode my bike up to the drive-thru window at my bank and they wouldn't accept my transaction because I wasn't in a car!
motherearth4115974 almost 5 years ago
I really think that this challenge is AWESOME!
catmankarl almost 5 years ago
This is a great idea. I really don't like drive thru anything anyway. Small simple steps we all can take really does impact our enviroment in big ways.
hollyandjohn almost 5 years ago
oh this one is too easy...most fast food restaurants don't offer many choices for vegetarians...so they aren't places I normally frequent.
Gr0wGr4ssGr0w almost 5 years ago
This one is easy, i used to work at Burger King, and that led me to hate drive thrus, plus im short, i can never reach.
circlethreee almost 5 years ago
I dont usually do it anyway so this one was easy.
raphaelcosta23_60563 almost 5 years ago
I don't go to Drive thru in restaurants.I don't Like.
boots green thumb almost 5 years ago
I do not know about where you live but we get faster service inside instead of the drive thru anyways. What a great and easy challange to do, thanks. Oh and 91367-you are right and I will be sure to do as you say also, turn off the engine while in line, thanks for the tip.
Sabby almost 5 years ago
Well sure this is an eye-opener and I now seriously think of parking my car and go in to get my order. In whatever little way, i'll try my best to contribute to saving the precious gasoline besides reducing the CO2 emission.
Sabby almost 5 years ago
Well sure this is an eye-opener and I now seriousl think of parking my car and go in to get my order. Inwhatever little way, i'l try my best to contribute to saving the precious gasoline besides reducing the CO2 emission.
faith11 almost 5 years ago
My friends and I have stopped driving to fast food places altogether or whenever possible. Instead we all got baskets for our bikes and now ride to a local burger joint that has created a a drive-thru line for bikers, skaters, walkers. In addition they also take 10% off your order for using this line. its great. We are now trying to promote this idea to other 'fast food' places.
pumpkin almost 5 years ago
my family has actually started doing this at the beginning of summer with the rising gas prices. So this will be easy! ,, ((()))
DAMNN GEENUH [[SS4L]] almost 5 years ago
This will be very easy for me, because I don't eat fast food anyways :D but I'm assuming cutting the engine while in line then starting it back up a few times, would be wasting just as much gas...? Idk.. I'm not an expert so who knows :P
shearwater almost 5 years ago
Well I guess this challenge says it all about Americans! Drive thru? I wouldn't eat that rubbish if I was paid to, let alone drive thru! One challenge done without trying!
mcilvainashley_97222 almost 5 years ago
I will walk more I live not even a mile from places to eat if were too lazt to cook a meal.
Administrator almost 5 years ago
Compostmodern (love that name): yes, by all means! Extend this to any drive -throughs you may use a few times a month. ATMs and pharmacies are mentioned in the write-up above too. Thanks for the comment.
Lisa almost 5 years ago
Make sure you turn your car off before you head in to get your dunkin donut coffee. With others still in car, or for heat or a.c. it's tempting to leave it running ...
compostmodern almost 5 years ago
Adminstrator: First, CR is fantastic, thank you. Obviously, I'm repeating others' concerns, but here goes: Could we modify this challenge by extending it to all drive-throughs, i.e., banks, pharmacies, etc.? More of us would have the opportunity to engage in the challenge, and in turn, make the modifications. Thanks so much. Have a great day.
Administrator almost 5 years ago
Queen of Green, Thanks for clarifying this point. Yes, Carbonrally is designed to measure actual changes in our behavior. So, if taking this challenge does not require a change of behavior, it is not a suitable challenge for you to accept. We realize and apologize that some challenges just wont work for all people. When that happens, perhaps you'd like to do something else instead... repeat an old challenge, invite a new user to join the Rally... make a workshop suggestion? Thanks.
Queen of Green almost 5 years ago
This is another Challenge that is easy for me. I have never been to a drive through fast-food restuarant (or to the bank's drive through either). However, the rules state this is designed for those who normally do use drive throughs. So, do I accept the Challenge or not?
Old Faithful almost 5 years ago
I think I'll just avoid fast food restaurants altogether. Better for the planet and everyone in my house.
jen_ochs almost 5 years ago
Don't forget about bank drive-thrus too!
kimbers867 almost 5 years ago
When I am with my family we always go in, I can't stand sitting in a drive thru line. I would rather stand inside and wait, so this one will be a snap for us to do!
john_wuenschel almost 5 years ago
The last time I went to a fast food restaurant, I passed up the drive through and went inside. I was in and out before the cars in line were served. This will be an easy challenge.
icek8girl almost 5 years ago
same here
lglaunsinger_85541 almost 5 years ago
As I don't go to drive in restaurants this is an easy one.
Ellie almost 5 years ago
well i never use a drive through so i guess i cant do this challenge - just like the last one - i dont use a/c! we need to make challenges that more people can actually do...
Administrator almost 5 years ago
That would help, if you have to stay in the car... but avoiding it all togther reduces the engine starting/stopping, and the congestion in the line that keeps all the non-rallyers idling even longer.